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Hey Sam.. breaking the ice here :p
You’ve emphasized many times how the Targaryen portfolio is very high risk and only 1-2% of the overall portfolio should be allocated to it, but I’m wondering how do you manage drawdowns or periods of underperformance, such as an unexpected bear market? Are there specific strategies you use to mitigate the impact during those times, or is it more of a ‘ride or die’ approach? I’m asking because, while we buy during corrections to improve our odds, there’s always the risk of poor timing or an unforeseen event that could drive the market significantly lower.
Hi Joey — If you’re asking about the Targaryen Portfolio specifically, when it comes to the trading portfolios, we attempt to reduce risk in a few ways.
First, we only enter trades after a lot of heavy selling has already taken place. For example, in Targaryen, we’re currently only allocated long 35% and have 65% cash even after the heavy sell-off we just sustained.
We bought Apple after it reached oversold on the daily chart and had sustained a full 15.4% sell-off from its peak. We bought the Nvidia spread only after it had fallen a full 21.6% from its highs.
Now it’s important to realize that even in bear markets — like 2022 for example — we get massive rebounds north of 10-20-30%. In fact, during the 2022 bear market, we had FOUR separate 15-30% rebound during the downtrend.
This was true during the financial crisis and every other bear market. The Targaryen Strategy works in both bull and bear markets alike given the timing.
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In situations where we’ve put on larger trades, we’ll generally hedge those on the oversold bounce. We haven’t put on a large enough trade to warrant doing so yet. But suppose we had made a $4k purchase, we’d then add a roughly $1k put position to hedge the trade in an 80-20% put-call ratio in the portfolio. That ratio works really well in volatile environments.
Also, this article here explains how we deal with positioning in a way that limits the potential damage any one trade can deal to the portfolio:
https://sam-weiss.com/chapter-3-risk-management-brokerage-limitations/
To answer your question, it comes down to a mix of limiting allocations on any one trade and hedging in situations where we’ve made larger trades.
Makes a lot of sense! Thanks for the great answer, as always.
For the longer-term portfolios, the overall strategy can be found reading Chapters 1-6 of investing basics. We use a mix of time horizon and puts. The 2-year rule + hedging with puts is how to protect the portfolio.
The key thing to note is that bear market don’t unfold in a straight down fashion and when they do, they tend to return in a straight up fashion like we saw during the COVID crash for example.
When we do our buying, we’re buying when the market is getting pretty oversold and often a major rebound occurs. This is true in all environments. Bear markets, bull markets etc.
For example, let’s suppose we’re in a bear market right now. We made our initial purchase on the QQQ at $501. And that’s only a half position right now. The QQQ had to fall from $538 down to $501 before we even put on a 1/2 position trade. The QQQ is still a full $20.00 above that point.
The rebound from $500 to $530 we saw recently occurred off of oversold conditions. Had we been fully allocated long indicating a lot of confidence that the market has bottomed, we would have already hedged at $530.
We haven’t hedged because we’re still sitting on 40% cash with relatively low entries which acts as a hedge in and of itself.
In fact, buying on corrections, the 2-year rule and sitting in cash are two major elements that protect Frey/Stark.
The other portfolios are already well protected. If a 40% crash were to happen today, Arryn, Lannister, Tarly and Tyrell would all be in the green.
Run the math on those portfolios using an options calculator (options) and you’ll find a 40% crash would actually be good for all four portfolios.
Hi, I about to begin my first long option trade. You gave me a clear idea of how option works in your investing basics section.
I want to ask, any reason why ur pick of contract strike price is very close to stock price at the time of purchase?
safer? better return?
Hi Malveen — a few things. First, each of the investing basics chapters now has a Q&A section. You can always ask investing basics related questions there. It’s also very relevant here as well.
Second, in terms of picking option strikes, it depends on the situation and we’ll cover this a little in advanced topics and in chapter 5.5 on call-option risks.
Option Premium versus Intrinsic Value
A big concept that every one who trades options really needs to quickly understand is the interplay between intrinsic value and option premium.
Let’s consider something like the April $110 calls for Nvidia (NVDA) to understand this concept.
Right now, the Nvidia (NVDA) April 2025 $110 calls costs $17 per contract. Now Nvidia (NVDA) currently trades at $118.65.
That means the “real” or “intrinsic value” of the April 2025 $110 calls is only $8.65 right now. If Nvidia didn’t move up or down a single penny from now until April 17, 2025 when the options expire they would be worth exactly $8.65.
Why? Because $118.65 – $110.00 strike = $8.65. Nvidia’s calls are trading $8.65 in the money. That is the option’s intrinsic value.
Anything beyond that is considered extra “premium.” It’s a premium people pay for several different reasons. Right now, the premium on the April $110 NVDA calls is $8.35.
That means traders believe that between now and April, based on that option price, Nvidia will probably trade more than $8.35 higher than where it is today. And if it does, then those options will be exactly even. If it closes more than $8.35 above where it is today, then those options will make money at expiration.
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So now that you understand that options have “intrinsic value” and “premium” let’s consider why one might buy in the money options when making near-term trades.
Notice that ALL out of the money options, have ZERO intrinsic value. Out of the money options are 100% premium because they’re not in the money at all.
Now here’s why this matters. Often times in a correction or in a heavy sell-off, option prices can become very very artificially inflated. They become worth far more than they should be under the circumstances. And this happens because one of the variables that impact option premiums is implied volatility.
This is problematic because when stocks start to rebound, that implied volatility comes crashing down which puts a lot of negative pressure on the option prices.
You can have a situation where a stock that you’ve bet on is rising while the call option is dropping. This happens becuase even though other variables impacting the option price are rising, the collapse in implied volatility might off-set that to the point of causing the optic price to actually drop on a rebound.
I’ve seem this happen A LOT in out of the money options. During the Covid crisis, I watched the SPY rise nearly 7% while January OTM call option dropped in value!
And I saw the reverse happen while the SPY was crashing. Even though the SPY was going down heavily, the call options were losing no value. That’s because volatility dominating the pricing of those options.
This is why we buy in the money options when we’re trading intermediate-term trade. That’s because in the money options have intrinsic value. They MUST rise in lock step with the stock. They often carry a higher net delta as a result. Net delta being how much the option price rises in ratio to the underlying stock.
In a rebound back up to $130 a share, the $110 calls must rise to at least $20 a contract minimum. Regardless of the premium because they would have $20 of intrinsic value. Those contracts would also have a fair amount of premium on top of that. but you can count on those options going up in value on a rebound.
Whereas the April $140 calls at $5.50 might not if volatility falls enough.
Often if we’re confident in the rebound, we might even go in a more near-term expiration and choose a fairly in the money option to ensure we get a return.
We’ll do this in situations where the $VIX is sky high and where we know premiums are overinflated. We did this in December.
For example, if we wanted to play a NASDAQ-100 (QQQ) rebound and felt like the premium was out of control on the March or April expiration, we might buy the February $500 calls which trade at $27.00. Those option as of the close of trading have $24.47 of intrinsic value and only $2.50 in premium. There’s no chance of those experiencing volatility crush. They will simply rise in lock-step with the QQQ. If the QQQ rises $10, those options will confidently rise $8-$9. They currently trade at a 0.75 delta and that delta would expand on the rally.
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Long-Term Options
It’s the same general concept. You want to limit the amount of premium paid, you want to get close to a delta of 1 and derive high internal leverage. The January 2027 $550 calls on the QQQ cost $64. That means for those to just break-even, the QQQ would need to rally to $615. That’s a big move to break-even.
What’s more, the $550 calls won’t allow us to sell premium against the position until the QQQ rallies past $550 a share. Whereas the $500’s would allow us to sell premium against the position today. they’re already $25 in the money.
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To answer your question, it’s partly due to avoiding volatility crush, partly due to reducing risk and part of it is that it allows us to sell premium.
If and when we buy OTM options, it’s generally with a call-spread. Call-spreads aren’t subject to volatility crush in the same way because both the long call and short call are impacted equally by volatility crush.
So spread are safer when it comes to option valuation. You generally get accurately and fairly value spreads.
That’s not the case with call-options or put-options. You could have calls/puts which are radically overvalued and overinflated. Where the cost quite simply is inaccurate. An investor can potently overpay for an option.
You can have a call option that expiring in 90 days that’s worth $40 today and that same option can be worth $30 5-days later. This despite the fact the underlying stock didn’t move a penny. That can happen all due to volatility. A call-spread isn’t altered by volatility in the same way. the impact is minimal. On a spread, it might be the difference of $40 to $39.65 whereas with the call you can see it drop from $40 to $30 in 5-days due to nothing but a tiny amount of theta decay (time value) and volatility crush.
Thanks Sam, you help me to understand so much here.
Can’t wait for u to update the risk of options chapter
Hey Sam, would you consider adding a short bio about yourself to let readers know how you accumulated your trading experience and why you decided to start this blog?
What are your thoughts on holding long term using leveraged ETFs like QLD (2x QQQ) along with hedging (either with uncorrelated asset or options like you use)? I know using TQQQ (3x QQQ) would be too much volatility decay and just won’t survive any big downturn, but seems like 2x would still be ok. Seems like you can achieve similar Sharpe ratio and max drawdown yet have higher returns compared to QQQ (backtest at https://testfol.io/?s=hIEPOnYifNu). Curious on your thoughts.
Sam, I’m getting lost in number of portfolios launched. Is it possible to have a super summarized list of the portfolios launched and the objective of each? Specifically, I don’t know which one is the 1m challenge portfolio anymore?
To quickly answer your question. It’s Targaryen. The Targaryen Challenge.
But you’ve touched on a very tricky issue that I haven’t quite been able to figure out. When you think about the strategies we run here at Sam Weiss, it’s really just THREE strategies in total. Three different types of portfolios and if it weren’t for the fact that we have ongoing new members joining at different times, we’d only have THREE total portfolios. The third kind requires a new iteration every few months and that’s why it’s rapidly expanding.
For example, here are the THREE strategies:
(1) Our Core Long-Term Strategy (Options & Common Stock)
Arryn (options) August 5, 2024
Tarly (stocks) August 5, 2024
Lannister (options) September 4, 2024
Tyrell (stocks) September 4, 2024
Stark (options) January 1, 2025
Frey (stocks) January 1, 2025
(2) Basic Trading Strategy
Baratheon (options) December 19, 2024
(3) $5k to $1M Challenge
Targaryen Challenge (call-spreads) November 15, 2024
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Now here’s the complex issue that I quite honestly haven’t figured out how to deal with. On the one hand, having too many portfolios will simply cause huge amounts of confusion. Especially for newer members.
On the other hand, if we have three established portfolios and don’t launch new ones during new corrections, newer members will never be able to observe the entire process from start to finish.
That’s the pickle. All I can really do is try to outline exactly what’s going on through different parts of the site and hope the info is read and digested by the subscriber base.
But I do expect there to be confusion because there’s already so much information on the website.
I’d read here if it’s unclear at all:
Model Portfolios Overview
Sam, sorry for the delay. I honestly think an area of the top of the portfolio page that has this exact information would be tremendously useful! This is laid out perfectly in chronological order and separated by strategy.
If there could be a code in blog posts like “Barathon (BTS)” or “Targaryen (5Kto1M)” would be easier than clicking back and forth to understand which strategy each was working on, that would be helpful but up to you!
I’ve added a summary outline explaining the various portfolios with launch dates and things like that. I’m adding it to the top of the page in the Quick Reference Handbook.
Edit: So right now in the QRH (the tabs at the top of the daily briefing) we have a reference to every portfolio. I’m going to modify it so that it contains more information about the portfolios. That way it’ll be easier to quickly figure out each one. Here’ what we have right now in our actual Portfolio’s page:
Samwise Portfolios
Look at the third tab called Portfolio Summary. We’ll incorporate elements of that drop-down into the QRH (area at the top of each Daily Briefing).
Sam, I am sure you are working on a post now in response to the market conditions this past Friday.
Two questions:
1) I was looking at the largest corrections on the QQQ the past few years and I noticed that the most sizable ones are 30% and 35%. Do you have any gut feeling on when the next large correction is? I know in past posts you had mentioned 8-10% corrections each year, but wanted to get your perspective on when these larger 30-35% corrections happen.
2) Is there a page where you have the segmented rally tables posted anywhere or do we have to sift through the blog posts for them? Specifically, I love looking at the SPY and QQQ rally / retrace tables. Would you be open to having a page with just that analysis somewhere? (Or maybe there is, so much content has been posted!)
Thank you!
(1) The larger corrections are essentially bear markets/crashes. Anything north of 25% is essentially a crash. They’re very rare and hard to predict becuase they all start off the same. You get heavy volatilty and the selling just continues. It’s why we hedge in our Long-Term Model Portfolios. It allows us to stay long.
The good news about bear markets is that it doesn’t typically unfold in a straight line down. You get oversold set-ups and bounces just like we’ve seen during this correction. It just happens on a much larger scale. You get oversold daily leading to multi-week rallies.
(2) What you’re looking for can be found in Investing Basics Chapter 5.
Sam, thanks so much. Do you know if there is a search function? I was looking for the SPY segmented rally table you had put together awhile back.
I don’t think I have an SPY segmented rally chart. I do have one for the QQQ at the bottom of chapter 5.2. the last tab:
Investing Basics Chapter 5.2
I don’t believe there’s a search function either. You can try the upper right hand corner of the screen. It looks like there’s a search function there. But that could be an admin search not sure.
Hi Sam, I saw this in one of the comments and I thought would it be a great idea to have a table of contents for the Daily Briefing?
In google docs and other documentation apps like Confluence or even MS word, there is a dynamic Table of Contents that automatically create URLs for each header you type in a page/article.
This would make updates on the daily briefing even more dynamic, and have one-click navigation to the newest entry.
I’ll look into it. It’s really tricky because there is so much going on behind the scenes with the daily briefing and we always have to ensure that FOUR different platforms are being served — desktop, mobile web, tablet and mobile app. Every page has a ton of html, duplicate posts, css and other things happening.
So I’ll look into and see if we can do it. I’ve thought about flipping the Daily Briefing to post the most recent update FIRST. The ultimate tool would be to place the most recent post at the top of the page and then give the user the ability to flip it back into chronological order.
But I’ve found that even the smallest integration requires very complicated code at times.
Hi Sam, new in here. I´m interested to start the Targaryen portfolio so i’m checking the last trades in order to catch up but a bit confused. I should wait new trades or start from yesterday trades?
best
Count yourself lucky you’ll be getting cheaper entries! 🙂
1. We have Bloomberg Television, Schwab Network, should we expect to get some sort of Weiss channel? And do you intend on expanding your content to livestream/podcast for special events?
2. You already have pages for company fundamentals & financials. Regarding additional/organized content, while you mention them already in your Daily Briefings, should we expect specific pages for any of the following in the future?
◦ Labor Market Conditions
◦ Monetary Policy
◦ Inflation Rates
◦ etc..
3. Would you be able to share your thought process about the market and investing practices at different stages of your career: the beginning, the middle, and now? While your financial acumen may be different compared to another investor, I think it would be interesting to see the evolution your thought process and to draw out similarities to where another investor could be in their own timeline.
4. Not a question, but I have a meme for you that is related to question 2 (see attached).
Sam, if i am just now getting setup to do options do I just need to start buying contracts as you specify new ones?
Sam, I can tell you are a very disciplined and skilled investor. Thank you for all your analysis.
I wanted to touch base about your LEAPS portfolios and had a few questions. You target 100% which is exceptionally higher than common stock portfolio, but I am curious on a risk adjusted basis how they compare? I’d like to know the way things could break and you may not realize that 100% return, what would be expected, what risks compromise the portfolio in a serious way? Would you be comfortable allocating most or all of your long term to a LEAPS strategy, why or why not?
Right off the bat, and I know this is mitigated by your 2 year timeline, I could see a poor entry — 10% correction, *ENTER*, but don’t get an opportunity to effectively hedge, market keeps falling, 2 years SHOULD mitigate this, but I am just curious what types of things are on your mind that could seriously destroy the portfolio.
You’ve done a fantastic job with the ones I’ve been following, it’s very impressive, but can’t overlook or underestimate the risk to achieve such high returns.
These are really good questions and the exact right way to approach things. The right questions to ask. Let’s go through some of them:
“I wanted to touch base about your LEAPS portfolios and had a few questions. You target 100% which is exceptionally higher than common stock portfolio, but I am curious on a risk adjusted basis how they compare?”
The common stock portfolios are significantly lower risk than are the LEAPS portfolios in at least THREE major ways. When we talk about risk generally, we’re talking about three totally different things.
There is (1) existential risk or the risk of sustaining PERMANENT unrecoverable losses: (2) time value risk which is the risk that it takes a long time to recover after sustaining temporary losses thereby losing opportunity and sustaining devaluation as a result of the time value of money; and (3) execution risk that is inherent to the strategy itself.
(1) Existential Risk: Common Stock v. LEAPS Portfolio
Common Stock: Existential Risk is almost non-existent with the common stock portfolio because even if one were to have bought at the peak of the dot-com era, they still eventually recovered. In fact, the QQQ took 15-years to recover after the dot-com collapse. If you happened to buy at the very peak near $102.38 in early 2000 you didn’t recover until 2015. The QQQ fell 83.6% in the dot-com collapse.
LEAPS Portfolio: Existential Risk is extremely high because you don’t get 15-years to recover. If the portfolio isn’t well hedged by the time a collapse of that magnitude happens, then there’s no recovery. So in a lot of ways, existential is high and dependent on execution risk.
A portfolio like Arryn would skyrocket to $300-$400k if something like the dot-com collapse happened. particularly if we keep increasing our hedges as the QQQ climbs here. We want to DOUBlE our hedge and right now we’re hedged enough to the point that we’d produce big returns on a 40% drop in the market. Now imagining doubling that impact.
Common stock portfolio can weather the storm if the investor has a long enough time horizon to do so. You can’t be knocked out a common stock positions unless the QQQ/SPY folds. The risk of that happening is extremely trivial and would require fraud on the part of the funds.
(2) Time Value Risk
Time value risk is about the same for both portfolios. However, this too is heavily dependent on execution risk. Here’s how. Suppose a leaps portfolio is fully hedged. The QQQ crashes 40-50%. If something like that were to come to pass, the common stock portfolio is mildly hedged and will offset a big portion of that loss. Consider Tarly for example. It owns 1 contract in the Jan 2026 $450 Puts on the QQQ. It’s currently at $27, we bought it at $14.91.
Now suppose the QQQ were to fall to $330 a share in a brutal bear market. If that happens, that 1 contract goes to around $120 per contract and would be worth $12,000.
We currently own 161 shares of the QQQ in two separate blocks. 47 shares we just bought at $425 and our original block at $428. If the QQQ fell to $330, that 161 share position loses $15,778. That would be off-set by the $12,000 we collected on the puts. As you can see, it’s a pretty strong hedge and that hedge continues to work all the way down to $0.00. While we’ll lose a little more as it declines, the hedge still offsets a MAJOR portion of the losses.
For the LEAPs portfolio when the portfolio, if it’s already fully hedged, there’s a good chance we end up with deep profits or on a similar off-set. The bigger the seller, the better it is for a LEAPs portfolio. That’ typically not the case for a common stock portfolio unless you’re 1:1 hedged. In order to be 1:1 hedges, have to have 100 shares only or 2 contracts.
Anyway, the point here is this. The time value risk is potentially far more significant in a common stock portfolio than in a leaps portfolio depending on the circumstances and depending on whether the execution risk window is still open or has been closed.
(3) Execution Risk
Execution risk is virtually non-existent in the common stock portfolio. You buy it, you hedge and that’s that. At worst, you don’t hedge in time and and forced to weather out the storm via the 2-year rule. It’s definitely not as dramatic as it is with the LEAPS portfolio.
The BIGGEST RISK factor in the LEAPS portfolio, IS the execution risk. That’s literally the biggest issue of risk we have in the strategy.
in the leaps portfolio, we front load ALL of the risk at its launch. Our strategy is based on (1) buying on capitulation and (2) waiting for the inevitable rebound to hedge. Now you very aptly point out the MAIN issue of risk with the leaps portfolio when you say:
This right here is the central risk factor in the portfolio. We get a correction that we believe is only 10% but ends up being far worse. We just had that happen.
Stark & Frey are the two portfolios that were launched in this very environment. In the Stark portfolio, we went long the QQQ on the first 7.47% drop at $500 a share on January 13. We then hedged that position on a bounce to $535 on February 6. We were only about 60% long at the time I believe.
Then the crash happened, and at its worst Stark was down 30-35%. We close out our hedge and went long down near the capitulation lows. And now as of right now stark is down 1.85%. Probably not updated.
But consider this. Even in this extreme environment, we managed to laugh two portfolios early, we’re fully long both and well hedged in both. Both are just about even right now.
Still, that is the risk. The risk is that we buy too early. Realistically, we know capitulation when we see it. We knew with a LOT of confidence that hte market had bottomed on April 7. We even stated as much during that session. Notice we don’t often say, “okay this is it. we’ve bottomed.” We only say that on actual capitulation. With the $VIX at 60, $NYMO at -100 and the RSI near 20. We had the trifecta on April 7.
This allowed us to make those key transitional trades in Stark which in turn put us in a position where we’re good. We no longer have execution risk in ANY of our three LEAPS because all three are hedged now. We can crash 70% in the market and all three would do well. We can rise 50% and they’d do equally well or better.
We’re good.
But that is still the biggest risk factor to the portfolios. That we could get long on capitulation and we get something truly ground shifting happening in the market.
With stark, we were lucky that we bought at $500 and the market rebounded to $535 off of oversold conditions. That allowed us to get long, hedge and then wait for a larger pull-back to add to our position.
But where we haven’t been tested is in a situation where the market drops 10-15%, we get long and it happens to just continue to drop. Realistically, there just aren’t a lot of situations where that’s going to happen if one is extremely disciplined to only buy on capitulation. I mean really, we could have waited until April 7 to buy. We could have said, “hey look, we’ll just wait for 60-vix, 20-RSI and -100 $NYMO to buy.” If we had done that, we would have waiting in Stark/Frey to buy on April 7. The problem is that we rarely ever get capitulation like that. At most 1-2 a year and often it could be years between capitulation events like this.
The risk in the LEAPs portfolio is entirely front-loaded in the sense that once we buy hedges, the risk is basically behind us. There are pockets of risk remaining. For example, there’s the risk the market goes sideways for 2-years. Though I think that is extremely unlikely. It is as unlikely as a crash. But that risk still exists.
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That is a resounding F-NO! Look, here’s the reality when it comes to investing. Diversification is extremely important. And not just sector or asset class diversification. We’re talking even diversification in strategy.
Suppose someone wins the Powerball and $500 million lands in thier lap and they want to invest The wrong thing for that person to do would be to invest it all with one single fund. Even if the fund is fairly conservative and invested in the S&P 500, the right thing would be to invest across a variety of different funds, strategies and asset class. Some capital allocated to real estate. Some to fixed income or bonds. The capital allocated to equities can be done either through direct investments or through funds. If allocated through funds, the smart move would be to allocate to a variety of different funds to diversify against management risk.
If those who invested all they had with Madoff, had taken their capital and invested it with 20 different funds instead, they’d be okay right now.
The same sort of thing applies here. The LEAPs strategy is just one single strategy. There are tons of other strategies out there. Diversifying assets across different strategies means if one fails, the investor still has the others working for them.
Thanks so much Sam! What allocation are you putting towards this? I ask because 5-10% is stressed as the max toward the other trading portfolios.
To understand the strategy better, is it correct that the general idea is buy QQQ LEAPS on 30RSI (DAILY), sell premium at 70RSI (DAILY), buy PUT on 70RSI (DAILY) with funds from the short calls, on the next correction — 30RSI (DAILY) close the directionally short positions (PUT/SHORT CALL), add to long LEAP with further longer DTE, rinse repeat?
On the second round so to speak, there is less risk going long again since in theory there were gains on the way down.
In an up and right environment, assuming every put premium goes to $0 as paid insurance, and no selling of calls, what would returns be like?
Finally, when selecting LEAPS 2 years is good to keep time on our side, but how do you determine which strike you like best? Do you go off greeks and target a certain delta level or what?
Sam, thanks a million for all of your analysis, I’ve learned a ton reading and following along on your posts. I know you’re busy and appreciate your responses to my questions and other people’s questions, it’s been really helpful.
I wanted to follow-up re: risk management and how a LEAPS portfolio should be deployed and managed. Congrats on all of your portfolio, but Arryn especially. All the right calls with the opportunities presented. I get the feeling you remain long, but don’t actually care if the market goes up, or goes down. You’re going to win regardless.
With that said, there are 2 things that I wanted to bring up and hear your feedback on.
1) suppose an investor had $400K to allocate to this strategy, what is the argument for and against layering in and deploying over multiple corrections? For example, Feb 2025 correction you had some ‘early’ entries. Indicators hit, then market took another leg down. If the plan was to deploy $100K over 4 corrections, this would make sense to make another $100K entry once QQQ dropped another 40-50 points and bottomed on April 7. This would afford the investor flexibility to double down if need be.
In vanilla 8-12% correction, deploy $100K, ~6months later, another $100K and so on. I am thinking of this as a way to manage entry risk, to me it wouldn’t make sense to put the entire basis at risk at time 0. I chose $400K because that would be 4x $100K portfolios.
Another consideration, even if it’s a home run like Arryn, $100K @ 100% and $300K cash @ 0% is still a fantastic return.
Then, suppose first position from first entry doubled, well maybe $500K is too much so the investor could reallocate the $100K cash to a different strategy.
From there though, I would still question if each correction and investor only deployed half of the available capital. The returns are good regardless.
I think more than anything else this hedges execution risk to a degree whether a mistake is made on the rebound not putting a hedge on fast enough or entering too early.
2) I was intrigued by a comment that looked unfinished re: LEAPS, then transition to common stock near the peak, so that the correction to follow would effect common, not options. I am just curious what this would look like, it sounds great, but also remaining long LEAPS with 2:1 protection sounds good as well.
Hi Sam, The briefing page on the mobile app doesn’t load for me most of the time. The app is great but since last month or so it is not working for me. I have an android phone.
Hello. So the app platform is working on it. Not sure why the briefing page is having issues with android specifically.
They got it working for a short while a few weeks back and now apparently it’s back to having issues.
Sam, I would like to ask about ultra long term retirement accounts and such, as much as you can answer here.
The most critical component to your investing philosophy is buying on 8-10% corrections in order to hedge out risk, which as we;ve all seen has been very effective and led to great outcomes, even when you entered early this February. I believe the conditions are 8-10% correction with oversold on daily RSI, which leads to the inevitable hard and fast rebound.
Now, when it comes to retirement accounts, typically people use these as ultra long term, 10-20-30+ year investment horizons.
I am curious if you’ve done any back testing or have any general feedback in terms of if usually better to invest immediately and get long regardless of the price, or to wait for a correction.
What comes to mind is the QQQ taking 15 years to recover, yes it recovered, if you bought at peak in 2000 at $87 and held to today 25 years to $507, you avg 7.3%.
With that said, do you believe the best approach for any type of equity investment is remaining patient and disciplined and investing only under correction and oversold circumstances?
Entering at these prices feels somewhat reckless and undisciplined, but sitting on cash while QQQ runs to $600 doesn’t sound good either. 10% correction from $600 is only down to $540 which is still higher than today.
I understand you’re bound by what you can and can’t say so whatever you feel appropriate to answer is appreciated!
Sam! I saw a comment reply on daily briefing that more or less addressed this question!
Sam! Willing to share a little bit about your background/career? You’ve touched on experience and stuff, but interested to hear if you worked for a hedge fund, AM, or as a trader, equity research, or portfolio manager. Are you still actively working for a firm or just managing your own capital.
I can tell you’re really experienced and enjoy reading your ideas and analysis even if I don’t always act on it. It’s been fun watching you call all the big shots right during this correction. Big picture you FU$K!NG nailed it!
Other questions include if you have any credentials such as CFA charterholder — only ask because I really should go finish the 3rd just to finish it.
What books, news, resources, and other materials do you use to help you make decisions?
Hi Sam,
Thanks for your in depth market analysis over the 9 months I’ve been a subscriber. I’ve learned a TON just from reading your articles, educational content, and engaging with you in the daily briefings by asking questions (sorry for all the questions).
In the 25+ years you’ve been studying the markets in a professional manner, what would you say are key insights, processes, ah-ha moments, you feel really stepped up your investing game in a substantial way? I want to take my investing journey more seriously and be more methodical in my decision making.
What advice would you give a young Sam starting out? This could be as simple as keeping a journal of trades or as complex as technical analysis of trends.
Thanks!
So here’s the most critical lesson I’ve learned and something I think about a lot. Like daily. Anyone who begins investing will learn quickly that it’s not uncommon to go through multiple boom-bust cycles where you make a ton of money and then take heavily losses and are forced to start over.
Here’s the MOST critical thing I can say. This is RULE #1. And while it might sound cliche or unimportant, it isn’t. It is extremely crucial insight.
The moto of the Zero Hedge website has it right. On a long enough timeline, the survival rate for everyone drops to zero. It’s a very prescient quote and one worth reiterating to ourselves on a daily basis.
The moto is a play on words and contains a double-meaning.
In the literal sense, all of us are eventually going to die. 300 years from now, barring life extension, everyone reading this will be dead.
Figuratively — If you invest long enough—especially without a hedge—you’ll eventually blow up. Everyone does. One wrong move, one poorly managed event, and it’s all gone.
The entire point of investing is to be like Warren Buffet. Longevity is the key.
If I could give one piece of advice to my younger self—the kind of advice that would have made me a billionaire by now—it’s this:
You can double your money five times in a row—but one unhedged blow-up will erase all of it. Hedging is the only thing that interrupts inevitability.
One Mistake Is All It Takes
Every day, we need to ask ourselves:
-What happens if the market crashes?
-What happens if it goes nowhere?
-What happens if it rips higher?
Let’s consider the Arryn Portfolio as an example. Arryn launched last August and is up 140% right now $240k). It did well this year and almost ALL of the gains have been generated exclusively from our hedges. This is true and you’ll see the math below. Almost all of the returns are the result of having been hedged and transitioning the return generated from our puts into leaps.
If someone had followed the trades in the Arryn Portfolio to the letter but decided that hedging was only optional, they’d be underwater right now. Especially if they freaked out during the downturn that saw the leaps drop by 50%.
We went into 2025 expecting to see some sort of a correction. But we definitely didn’t see a 25% correction. We hedged for it. But it wasn’t part of our forecast at all. In fact, we thought the QQQ would run to $600 and then maybe sustain a 20% correction from there.
Here’s how it played out:
Between our put options and covered call sales, we booked $61,583.00 in pure hedging profits during the correction. That’s a 61.58% return just on hedging alone. More important, this allowed us to build the core positions and profits we have today. Specifically, here’s how we deployed that capital. We made the following purchase with that capital during the April 7 capitulation day:
(1) June 2027 $400 QQQ calls – bought for $34,000, now worth $66,805
(2) 600 shares of NVDL – bought for $16,800, now worth $31,422
(3) Apple Jan 2027 calls – bought for $12,000, now worth $15,900
That’s nearly $115,000 in value sitting in the portfolio right now—entirely funded by hedging activity. No hedge. No $115,000. You can subtract that right from the portfolio right now. None of that exists without the hedges. The portoflio would be at $120k right now.
Stark would be deeply under water. So would Lannister.
And here’s the reality. This is the honest to goodness reality. Arryn can do well for years 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, can be sitting at $5,875,000 and then go right back down to $100k on one major mistake. We make one wrong move and it’s all over.
That’s the core concept here. So how do we ensure that we don’t make that mistake?
We have to hedge at all times. That means either relying long recovery periods (using common stock or far end leaps) and/or holds puts MOST of the time.
there will always be times where puts have to be removed as was the case near capitulation. But when that happens, we have to be in ultra long-term investments. Ones that will surely recover in a crash.
The highest point of risk that we take must occur in the lowest probability situation. Anytime we remove hedges, it must be done only under circumstances where the probability of continued downside is at its lowest point. And even then, we should hedge by using time (2-year rule).
That’s what we did in Arryn during the recent crash. We closed out our hedges between April 3-7 bought NVLD, June 2027 leaps with 80% of hte capital and Jan 2027 Apple calls. SO most of the capital was in options that expired in 2.3-2.4 years and in an asset that doesn’t expire (NVDL).
We then re-hedged our position by April 15 (just a week later):
Arryn Portfolio
Buy to open NASDAQ-100 (QQQ) Mar 2026 $400 Puts @ $18.40 x 8 contracts made at 12:31 PM EST on April 15, 2025
8% Portfolio Allocation
That’s only 8 calendar days where we remained unhedged in Arryn. A period where the market saw an extremely high likelihood of rally.
We have to continue operating in this manner PERMANENTLY. Every correction. Every rally. It has to be perfect at all times or we risk going back down to $100k or less. We lose all our gains if we don’t always hedge.
This is the most important thing:
On a long enough timeline, everyone’s survival rate drops to zero (unless you hedge).
Hi Sam,
I’m currently studying the process of rolling our LEAPs forward as part of broadening my knowledge of maintaining a long term options based portfolio. The main strategy you’ve outlined in previous monthly briefings is using a synthetic roll. After reading your written explanation I mostly understand the purpose, but I’m still struggling to grapple with two main things.
Question #1
When purchasing our long LEAP call option we target an expiration date ≥ 2 years away because we’re following the 2 year rule. However; if the synthetic roll is for tax purposes and to extend our timeline to achieve long term capital gains status then wouldn’t we ALWAYS have to do this strategy to be 2 year rule compliant? If we didn’t do this strategy we would wait a full year (to get LT capital gains treatment), but violate the 2 year rule because once 1 year goes by we’ll only have 1 year left until expiration? Correct me if I’m wrong, but it sounds like maintaining a LT options portfolio and the synthetic roll strategy are inextricably bound if we want to be compliant with the Sam Weiss rules?
Question #2
Once we perform the synthetic roll, we effectively end up with two things: a call spread (net credit) and cash to spend from the credit received when selling the short leg. What do we do with this call spread? Do we just let it ride out until expiration? Going based on the example you give in the monthly briefing, we end up with a QQQ Dec 2026 430-435 call spread. The $430 leg we purchased for $75 per contract and the $435 leg we sold for $83 per contract. This means we ended up with a $8 profit per contract baked into the credit received; effectively “locking” in that profit. But when Dec 2026 comes around wouldn’t we need that $8 difference in cash to close out that position since the spread is actually an $8 credit (purchased for $75, sold for $83)? Isn’t that counter productive as we probably want to use that $8 profit when entering the next long position?
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FYI, for those reading in the future, I’m referring to the “Risk Assessment & Active Management of Arryn, Lannister & Stark” section in https://sam-weiss.com/april-2025-briefing-lt-model-portfolio-risk-assessment-optimization-stress-test/.
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Perhaps a section in Investing Basics on this topic would be helpful to connect the dots with the LEAPS related strategy we’re running at Sam Weiss ????
Thanks!
So here’s how to think about the 2-year rule and how it really fits into our overall risk management process.
Because we are hedged directly with puts, we no longer need to rely on the 2-year rule to create a cushion. At least not so heavily on that rule.
Also, as time wears on, what were once major positions, start to become smaller positions over time as we reduce those positions and buy new positions.
So let’s consider Arryn portfolio. We own the December 2026 $430 calls on the QQQ. Those expire in 18-months. That’s well under 2-years now.
But those $430 calls are so well insulated and hedged that other risk management tools are doing the legwork for us here.
Also, notice that the position had once dominated 53% of the portfolio. At purchase, it was 55% allocation (though we purchased 53%). We bought 7 contracts at $75.00 per contract ($52,500.00).
Now it only represents a mere $55,000 allocation. We sold nearly half of that position over time. We sold 1 contract in February to reduce risk and use the capital to buy a hedge.
We then sold 2 more in April to buy the March $400 puts. That’s nearly half of the position sold.
Guess what? Next time we have another correction and go 100% long and then have to lighten up on the bounce, it will be through the $430 that we lighten up.
So we’re already slowly transitioning out. We have 4 out of the 7 contracts we originally purchased.
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So where does synthetic roll come into play. It will come into play once we near the 1-year mark or during another correction. Realistically, the places we’re most likely to roll is at the peak of a rally — as a way to essentially raise capital — or at the lows of a correction to buy a new position.
For example, if we wait until this upcoming correction, we might decide, let’s buy the June 2027 or Jan 2028 $500 calls on the QQQ. We can synthetic roll the remaining 4 contracts by selling DITM calls and using the capital to buy Jan 2028.
The old positions then remains in the portfolio as a relic until we near expiration.
December calls will be treated differently than January calls. For example, if we owned the January 2027 $430 calls (instead of the Dec $430’s), here’s what we might have done as we approached December 2026.
In December 2026, we’d close out the short call for loss harvesting. To off-set whatever realized gains we produced during the 2026 tax year. Then in January 2027, we’d close the $430 calls. We might do that between the end of December 2026 and the begging of January 2027. That way we take the capital gains tax in 2027 and the capital loss in 2026 (from the leaps we shorted to create the spread).
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In practice, it’s more complicated. Really, each of these chapters need a “practical applications” chapter that shows where deviation from the rules makes sense. The rules need to be stated and understand. But then we also need to know how this all kind of works in practice.
Right now, in Arryn, what was a 55% position is now only a 23% position. This despite the fact that the $430 calls are up 89.3%.
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In Lannister, the Dec 2026 $400’s make up 40% of the portfolio now. they once stood at 55% at entry.
Even in stark, a relatively new portfolio, the Jan 2027 $500 calls only represents 34.5% of the position now.
The June 2027 $400 calls make up 27.5%.
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Note it’s very possible that by the time it’s required, they may not be much to roll.
Hi Sam,
In Chapter 5.2 of Investing Basics you call out that a pull-back of 5.5% or more marks the end of rally.
Could you elaborate on what specifically about 5.5% constitutes the end of the rally? Personal experience? Is it because that’s approximately the % of the shortest correction (namely the August 2010 rally & correction @ 5.89%) we’ve seen? Any extra details on this is greatly appreciated 🙂
Thanks!
So the reason we started considering 5.5% as a dividing line is because there were a few critical melt-up rallies that couldn’t be subdivided without making the 5.5% mark the dividing line. You’d sendup with rallies that lasted 400-days.
What’s more there were plenty of regular rallies where’d get a 6-7% correction only after a smaller 12-15% rally. The market would trade exactly as if it were in a correction just at a lower percentage treshold.
After 2020, that slowly shifted. If you look at tables 4.0, the smallest correction is 5.06% in November 2016. There we have FIVE different corrections at less than 6% each.
In table 4.1, backing out melt-up rally environments, we only have 2 rallies under 6% and one is 5.95% and the other 5.89%.
So I’d say in melt-up rally environments, the minimum threshold to count as a correction is 5%. Meaning, if we’ve just witnessed a full blown melt-up rally, it’s very possible that we’ll only see a 5% pull-back before the market continues higher.
In higher volatile markets with a higher average daily returns north of 0.26%+, you can expect the minimum correction to be around 6% (5.89%/5.95% being the smallest). But notice that.
Notice that after 2016, the smallest correction we’ve seen in high volatility rallies was 7.53%. That’s the smallest pull-back/correction since June 2016. And notice how the three times we did see sub-8% pull-backs in the post 2016 era, they were after rallies of only 15, 16 and 18%. Every other correction was well north of 8%
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So it’s based on the data itself.
Hi Sam,
Wanted to follow up on the idea of hedging against parabolic rally risk outlined in your daily briefing here: https://sam-weiss.com/rally-day-54-return-to-all-time-highs-for-the-qqq/.
For those reading in the future the high level context is we’re exiting our long NVDL positions in expectation of an upcoming correction, but also opening near term call & call spread positions to hedge against upside risk of a continued parabolic rally in the QQQ. This is after rallying back to ÅTH and part of an analysis and comparison with the COVID rally.
In one of the comments you mention something I found interesting
In a way, we’re almost protecting us from ourselves by paying the price of $5k to prevent any potential poor FOMO based behavior if this continued parabolic rally situation were to happen.
How broadly can this mentality be applied? We talk a lot about hedging against the downside to protect our positions (perhaps partly protect ourselves from emotional selling , the opposite of FOMO buying you could say). Is this strategy to hedge upside risk something you think about a lot or is this just due to circumstance?
Thanks!
So this is all spot on. Especially this part here:
That is exactly right and I couldn’t have said it better myself. This is the entire purpose behind hedging out opportunity risk.
When people find investments they believe in, they don’t want to see it climb when they’re on the sidelines. That type of thing is exactly what drives poor decision making. It may cause them to want to short right into the rally and compound their issues. Or make up the shortfall using higher risk strategies.
So hedging out that potential opportunity cost allows us to go the sidelines and not have to worry about Nvidia running without us.
Also, the near-term calls are a short-term stock replacement substitute. By staying in NVDL, we capture the upside. But the risk is that if the market pulls back, we take a larger $12-$18k hit. The option position allows us to capture that same upside, but limits our downside to only $5k. We’re basically just moving to a far more conservative stance and staying long in the process.
Remember, the goal of our long-term portfolios is to remain long at all-time. Only under extreme situations should end up on the sidelines. For example, consider what it took for us to sell the September $540 calls on the QQQ for $19.55. Selling that option means we’d be forced out on an effective exit from the QQQ at $559.55. If the QQQ runs to $559.55 by September 19, it will mean the QQQ will have rallied 40% from its lows in just 4-5 months time. A full 40% move in the entire index. We’ve only seen something like that once before in the last 15-years.
Those are the extremes we’re talking about for potentially putting us on the sidelines. And in the end, we’d likely be able to buy that all back anyway on the ensuing correction as the QQQ likely falls to $530 a share (even a climb to $620 for example).
So it’s partly to hedge out FOMO risk taking behavior. Part of it is about making sure we remain long to participate in the extreme upside.
In terms of how broadly this can be applied, it can be done very broadly. It’s just math. Like if we wanted to, we can do the same thing with the QQQ. On the next pull-back, we can buy extremely out of the money calls for a smaller portion of our capital and go to the sidelines. But there’s no need to do that since we’re already hedged.
With NVDL, there was simply no good way to hedge out the potential crash and ensuing volatility decay that follows.
Hi Sam,
Options related questions!
I’ve noticed you like to put your expiration dates ~3 months out (excluding long term hedges).
Question #1
What is your reasoning behind this? Is this based on experience?
Question #2
How much does your data tables on rally & correction durations influence this expiration window? I’ve seen some glimpses of this with your analysis on maximum duration for intermediate term rallies and such, which spurred these questions.
Question #3
What other factors do you consider when choosing the expiration date (ex. earnings dates)?
Thanks!
Hi Sam,
I was wondering if you have any insight about NVDA before earnings on August 27. Usually there is a run up in the 21 days leading up to earnings, but NVDA has been running up the whole quarter. Do you have any price targets for NVDA before earnings? I have noticed that for the past five quarters, it will hit its peak 7-14 days before earnings. What do you think?
Hi Sam,
Question regarding selling premium against our long term QQQ leaps. The Sam Weiss strategy calls for us to sell premium against our leaps to reduce cost basis. We construct the covered calls in such a manner where we’d get called away / close in the money in extreme outlier situations (e.g. the current rally after the Feb-April 2025 correction). Based on your experience, do you see any merit in selling premium against our leaps more frequently, using shorter dated covered calls (e.g. monthly expiration) to increase the rate of cash flow / cost basis reduction? Is this a fools errand?
Thanks!
I’ve been there and done that and it’s inevitably a bad outcome.
I think I have a chapter on it and a rule on it. We never want to sell short dated covered calls.
So here’s the reasoning behind it. With shorter calls, you have to sell lower strikes. And you get less of a premium when doing so.
The risk is too high for getting called away at too low of an exit.
Imagine if we had sold shorter dated options when we decided to sell premium against the QQQ back in May-June. At best we may have been able to sell the $530’s for a few dollars. For example, right now the October 17 $610 calls are worth $7.00.
The whole point of having sold the September 540s was to (1) offset our basis by a substantial sum ($20) or 25% basis reduction; (2) to sell a expiration that would require the QQQ to record a record, breaking duration rally in order for us to get called away; and (3) to sell a far enough out of the money to allow us to participate in the rally while generating further risk reduction.
When we sold the 540s, we still got to participate all the way up to 560 a share. But if the QQQ had peaked at any point before then and then sustained a correction, we would have offset that sell off by 20 points.
The paradigm at the time was that even if the QQQ managed to rally beyond a 560 share and beyond the month of September, we would have an inevitable correction that takes us back down below 560 a share.
That is still very much true. At 600 to share a standard correction would take the QQ down to 540.
A larger correction can take the QQ down to 515-525
And even if the QQQ only returned to 560 it would do so after theta decay.
Meaning, let’s suppose a QQQ rose to 620 a share over the next four weeks and then it proceeded to fall $62 (10%) in a correction that occurs in November. The QQQ returns to $560 exactly – our effective exist price.
Under that scenario, we are better off because we got to buy back two months later after theta decay.
Since we are rolling forward, we would be buying those future options at a discount relative to September.
We closed out our calls in September and we bought back ours at the same price level, but in November
That is the type of situation we wanna be in when we sell covered calls
In the future, when we look to sell covered calls our thinking is going to be very similar. We’ll probably look to cell covered calls if the rally approaches 30%. The calls we sell would need to allow us to participate up to around 40% and we sell at an expiration that we felt confident the QQQ is unlikely to surpass without correction.
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When selling shorter dated covered calls what invariably happens is you’ll get it right like four or five times and then you’ll get called away in a very bad way.
Like imagine if we had closed out our entire position at 520 on the QQQ.
Or imagine if we had sold short term covered calls at $490 expecting a segmented rally pullback.
QQQ gapped up above 500 and never looked back.
That’s the danger in shorter dated calls. You can’t generate situations that compare to what we did back in May. Which was to essentially allow us to participate in most of the rally.
Hi Sam,
How does volume in conjunction with price action inform your trading & investing (if at all)? Curious to know if you’ve found analyzing volume to validate price action useful over your 20+ years of experience.
Thanks!
Hi Sam,
Have you ever thought about writing a book or creating a video course on learning technical trading — one that is rigorous and in-depth? I think there’s a dearth of high quality, practical materials for the engineering/mathematical minded, short of traditional university courses. I, for one, will absolutely buy.
Or integrating a knowledge base chatbot fed with information from this website? That way users can ask questions, especially for previously answered context and questions that’s hidden away in the briefs.
This is good idea. I might look into this idea. A chat-bot that feeds off of daily briefings would be a really strong structure. I’ll look into this. This could reduce workload too.
Hi Sam,
I understand the site has finished upgrading, the website works fine; however, the app is still giving me trouble when I tried to navigate around after I’ve logged in. I kept getting “Please login to view this page”. are other subscribers having the same issue?
We’ve located the cause of all issues and patched it. The migration has largely concluded. We’re now just working on speed optimizations. Within the next week or so, we should have a significantly faster website and the app should performing at a much higher level.
As far as we can tell, everything is back online including the comment section within the App.
Yes, everything is working for me now. thx