Full Consolidation Top Points to Larger Correction; PCE Had a Net Positive Effect on CME Despite Sell-off

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Jacob Larsen

Thanks for the updates Sam! ????
One question for you for my own learning:
Let’s say on Wednesday we break through the $560 resistance and we confirm the QQQ is now in a correction, Does that mean the correction actually started on Aug 13th when we reached the $583 peak or did it start during this last run up to $577 yesterday.

I really appreciate your answers to the questions here as well as the daily updates!

Jacob Larsen

Thank you for your reply and answering my question! Have a great weekend! Fingers crossed we see a plunge next week!

Edwin

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QQQ/NVDA already oversold on the hourly

malveen chew

So if this unlikely breakout do happen, it will be counted as the 6th segment rite?

Karl Peak

Hello Sam,

A key crash signal just triggered also.

the 30-year vs 2-year U.S. Treasury spread hit the critical level of ~50, a point that has historically preceded major market crashes.

Why it matters:
This ratio has an uncanny track record:

1990 recession → the ratio hit ~50, then markets fell.

Dot-com bust (2000) → it hit ~50 just before the bubble burst.

Global Financial Crisis (2007–08) → it reached ~50 right before the housing/credit collapse.

COVID crash (2020) → it touched ~50 just before markets plunged ~34%.

Now, in August 2025, the spread closed at 49.65 (~50) again—exactly the danger zone from past crashes.

The setup today:

This flash comes as the S&P 500 hits euphoric all-time highs, creating a backdrop of complacency—markets look safest right before they’re not.

Important notes:

It doesn’t mean markets will crash immediately or on a precise date.

It does mean the window for a crash is now wide open.
From here, any catalyst—earnings miss, geopolitical shock, credit event, even a minor trigger—could unleash it, because the stress is already baked in.

Bottom line
No indicator is infallible, but whenever the 30Y:2Y ratio hit ~50 with markets euphoric, history showed bulls were picking up pennies in front of a steamroller. The crash risk is real, even if timing is unknowable.

Is this an indicator you’re following too?

What do you think?

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A Dhindsa

Has it ever hit 50 and not led to a correction?

Karl Peak

Here’s what I was able to verify (deep-dive approach) about the signal in question — the monthly RSI(14)

Result
Since 1980, I can identify only 4 clear occurrences where the monthly RSI(30Y:2Y) rose above 50 after a prolonged low phase: 1990, 2000, 2007, 2020.

Each time, a major equity correction followed in the subsequent months (1990 recession, 2000–02 dot-com crash, 2007–09 GFC, 2020 COVID crash). I found no documented instance of a >50 reading that was not foll

How I validated it
The “4 occurrences” timeline comes from published full charts (ratio $UST30Y:$UST2Y with monthly RSI) that specifically annotate these crossings of 50 and the S&P 500 peaks
I then cross-checked with mainstream literature on yield curve/recessions (San Francisco Fed, Cleveland Fed, Reuters/Barron’s on post-inversion steepening), which confirms that re-steepening phases after inversion are typically associated with macro/market downturns — consistent with these 4 episodes.

Control checks (possible false positives)
I looked at candidate periods without obvious crashes (1994, 2011, 2016). On public historical charts, the monthly RSI of the ratio did not sustainably break above 50 from a marked low at those dates (and in 1998, there was in any case a ~20% drop). I found no evidence of an RSI >50 that remained without a notable correction.

Limits and caution
Very small sample (n = 4) and a non-academic indicator → no strong statistical guarantee; causality is not established.The “50” refers to the RSI of the 30Y:2Y ratio, not the “30Y–2Y spread” itself.

Verdict
Based on available data and sources, the answer is no — I do not find any case where the monthly RSI(30Y:2Y) crossed 50 without a significant equity correction following.

Last edited 2 months ago by Karl Peak
BERNARD LEMOINE

wow, great job on this! were you also able to identify the duration from the trigger to when the market corrected?

A Dhindsa

Always makes it more compelling (caveats aside) when it’s consistent in one direction

Todd

I could be wrong but these aren’t just corrections. These look like complete market turnarounds.

Karl Peak

Could you be more specific?

Todd

Sure, just acknowledging what’s in the post: recession, bust, crisis, collapse, crash

If we’re sticking to the analysis on the site, this is a pullback before continuing onward and upward. A recession or collapse paints a different picture.

Karl Peak

Thanks Sam. It’s clear. ????????

malveen chew

this is really interesting.
Hopefully sam can shed some light on this

Karl Peak

Me too, Sam, if you pass by, bring your light!

L Cale

ok someone pass the oil this time for real

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Can you stop littering the page with nonsense?

Todd

Hi smiley, I have found if you change the Sort order between Newest, Oldest, or Most Voted all of the comments will show.

I don’t know which sort will cause them to show but I can see all the comments when I toggle the sort feature. It’s a bug on the site.

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