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hi Sam,
thanks for the insights. curious what is the difference between complex tops and consolidation?
Much lower volatility for consolation and complex tops tend to occur much much faster. Think July 2024 as an example. You get heavy volatility that lasts a few days.
Think about how the market bottomed in April 2025 for example. between liberation day and the bottom was like 5-6 trading sessions or less.
I think liberation day happened on a Tuesday and the market bottom the following Monday.
Look at today. We went up to as high as $506 and now here we are down to $598.61.
That’s the hallmark of a complex high volatility top. The market has’t committed to any direction on any day now. whatever direction the market takes, it goes the opposite of what everyone thinks. Look at the comments this morning — which can be found in yesterday’s daily briefing — and now look at the comments now.
yes that makes total sense. thank you
What’s the plan to exit the spreads, puts etc. we have missed a lot of opportunities. I’m not pointing fingers or saying right or wrong, just saying we haven’t been consistent in the way we’ve made moves, and it’s cost. General rule is keep time on your side and within 30dte look to exit at next opportunity.
Please reference this as the topic has been asked and answered a number of times now:
https://sam-weiss.com/rally-day-127-a-decent-chance-today-is-the-peak-with-bearish-reversal-underway/#comment-5739
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Edited for clarity:
As we mentioned above, when we allocated at 3%, we did so on the following basis. First, the position sizes are already small enough to have inherent risk caps. We’re not going to sit there and worry about cutting losses for the exact reasons outlined in the comment linked above.
Instead of buying a 10% position with an “exit plan” to cut losses at 5%, we simply buy a 3% position with the understanding that we may take a 3% hit. That way, we’re not preoccupied with whether the current pullback is the real deal or just a short-term fluctuation giving us an exit window. We allocated this way to avoid having to entertain microscopic timeframes.
And now I’m just repeating what I’ve already outlined above.
When you say, “We have missed a lot of opportunities,” you’re viewing those as “exit opportunities.” But they’re only exit opportunities in hindsight—only in hindsight.
Here’s an example. The market sold off sharply on Friday, right? A huge reversal—from $613 down $23, or roughly 3.5%. It could just as easily have gapped down on Monday another 2%, closing around $576 and causing the Oct 17 spread to rise to $1.93.
If we had exited on Friday, you’d now be saying, “The fact that QQQ reversed 3.5% should have told you not to close out the position—we’d have seen follow-through next week.” But since QQQ didn’t do that, now we’ve supposedly “missed a lot of opportunities.”
We don’t engage in that kind of hindsight analysis or micro-trading mentality. To avoid even thinking that way, we simply cap our position size at 3%. That way, we don’t have to worry about whether “we missed opportunities to exit” or “made the mistake of exiting too soon.”
When we put on these trades, we did so based on two points. First, the market has never rallied beyond 114 days in any high-volatility rally—so the thesis was sound. Second, we capped our losses at 3%, setting up a clear-cut, limited trade. If it fails, it’s a 3% loss; if it succeeds, it’s a potential 15% gain. It’s that simple: a 3% allocation for a potential 15% return. We’re not going to worry about whether a pullback to $588.50 could have gone further or rebounded to $613. Nor are we going to worry about whether the pullback from $613 to $589 would lead into a correction or another bounce. We’re betting on the thesis as a whole.
At the time we put on the trade, it was based on the fact that the market could correct at any time and that historically, rallies have peaked around 114 days. That’s it—that’s the whole thesis. It’s an all-or-nothing proposition on a very small allocation.
The only narrow set of circumstances in which we’d exit early would be if the position both (1) rises to an irrational value and (2) is extremely unlikely to close in the money. That’s why we outlined our plan to close out the Oct 17 spread if the QQQ gapped down Monday morning and the spread spiked in value. A gap-down would almost certainly push the spread to an irrational value, creating a clear exit opportunity since there’d be no chance of it closing in the money.
At $0.05 or $0.10, the spread represents only 0.125%–0.25% of the total options portfolio—barely an afterthought compared to Arryn’s daily volatility. It’s simply not worth exiting over an $800–$1,000 cost in a $240k portfolio that moves far more than that daily.
With Oct 31 about 12 sessions away and the spread valued at $0.50, we’re risking $0.50 on the possibility of a market correction between now and then. For Arryn, that $0.50 equals a 1.5% portfolio risk. We believe that 1.5% risk is justified, so we’re not going to exit 12–13 days before expiration.
For instance, an hour ago the QQQ dropped to $597, and the spread spiked to $0.65. You may see that as a “missed opportunity,” but we see it as the market showing a real risk of rolling over into another major reversal. Another big reversal could trigger a significant sell-off at any time. The fact that QQQ later rebounded to $601 doesn’t change that risk profile at the moment QQQ hit $597.
Thus, our exit plan is simple: (1) exit if QQQ rolls over into a correction, or (2) exit at an irrational value.
At a 3% position size, this was built as an all-or-nothing thesis. The loss limitation was baked into the position when we entered the trade.
If we intended to “cut losses,” we would have taken a much larger position and then set stop-losses. Instead, we simply took a 3% position to limit the trade’s impact from the outset.
To illustrate, suppose we bought a 0.10% position. Does an all-or-nothing proposition make sense then? At a 3% entry and a 1.5% current value, that’s far below the portfolio’s daily volatility. It’s not a position worth “cutting losses” on when a correction could easily occur between now and Oct 31 that could make the spread rise 3x–6x from its current value.
That’s our approach.
Someone allocating more would face a completely different set of decisions. But at a 3% allocation, we’ve deliberately eliminated the need to worry about constant re-entry or exit decisions each time QQQ fluctuates.
We don’t need to ask, “Should we close out at $590 when the market could easily gap down Monday morning into a correction?” Nor, “Should we cut losses if QQQ rises to $606?”
For example, suppose we said, “A push to $606 opens the possibility of retesting the highs. We should cut losses and close out the Oct 31 spread at $0.30, preserving $1,700 in the Arryn portfolio.” Then suppose QQQ falls to $475 within 10 days, pushing the Oct 31 spread to $9.75—adding $60,000 to the portfolio (a 25% return). In that case, we preserved a mere 0.5% and lost out on a 25% gain. That’s the crux of the problem.
By the time it’s clear a position won’t close in the money, it’s usually too undervalued to matter. That’s why capping allocations—rather than worrying about cutting losses—makes the most sense.
Alternatively, think of it this way:
Is there really a difference between someone allocating $73,250 to a trade and setting a stop-loss to cap losses at $13k, versus someone simply allocating $13k upfront on an all-or-nothing basis? Both are risking $13k—the latter just skips the stress and micromanagement.
And that’s the key point. Which strategy is stronger—the large allocation with tight stop-losses, or the small allocation with a built-in cap where we don’t have to fret over every market swing? That’s why there’s no “exit plan” in the specific sense you’re asking about. We’ve structured it so that we don’t need one.
VIX 20 key level
QQQ nlod
QQQ defending key level $600
QQQ broke $600 $595 nlod
QQQ back to $600; VIX 21.8
Lol
expecting earnings to be good on tsmc and nvidia so its possible the 500 put entries can get to 16 again. I remember seeing 14.90 on wednesday last week and then it stayed at 15.20 a couple of days later even though QQQ made new highs at 613. My guess is it was the start of the volatility spike.
When are earnings?
tsmc reports tomorrow in the pm I think
Lol!!
Daily chart looking very similar to July 2024
it does actually
Having hope for oct 24 nvda put
QQQ gap up
QQQ nhod; just over 5pts to reach 613
$500 puts are still over $17
QQQ nhod $608.31 just $4.87 off ATH .8% to nATH
QQQ nlod; VIX nhod maintaining above 21 key level
Rollllling over.
I’ve been fooled so many times now. I’ll believe it when we break 590.
QQQ reclaim $600
VIX 23 highest since May
Sam is stressed he should just turn the comments off
I think he’s the opposite of stressed. As he stated, the portfolios are capped on losses regardless of how long the rally extends. For all of us that allocated a bit heavier on the put spreads and NVDA puts, perhaps WE are stressed. I hope he leaves the comments turned on.