Rally Day 120: Probability of a Second Leg Lower Has Increased With Today’s Reversal

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Frankfurter

While Nvidia is ultimately going to trade in the direction of the markets, unlike the QQQ, the stock has not made new highs for two months.

Technically it made new highs on Monday, but it was only by like 10-20 cents, which is pretty negligible for the 180s

Frankfurter

Anyways, you’ve said in the past that NVDA’s smallest correction in recent memory was 22% (corresponding to an 8% QQQ correction). That would put it at 143.95 which fits your prediction of the low 140s, but do you expect that to go lower if NVDA continues to consolidate?

Todd

Yep, I brought this up recently and Sam’s thoughts were that an “ATH” doesn’t count unless it’s a substantial percentage, breakout-type ATH etc.

Florian

Seems like we should transition out of those Oct. 17 spreads if we get a 2nd leg lower? What are your thoughts Sam? Could all get really tight if this screws around some more and retests and consolidates and what not..

First Name

Are we even going to address the Sep 30 spread? No value and not much time so could see just ignoring.

Derek Truong

I can only speak for myself, but I don’t know if it would make sense to close them out at this point as the amount you’d pay on fees might be more than the actual value you’d get back from selling it.

Last edited 2 months ago by Derek Truong
Derek Truong

Hi Sam,

Would love to hear your technical analysis breakdown of this statement

The chances of the QQQ rallying back to $600 is still high. That really hasn’t changed. What has changed with today’s session is that the QQQ now has a higher probability of sustaining a second leg lower. It is setting up that way right now.

When you say “It is setting up that way right now” what are you looking at to come to this conclusion? What is the “setup” in question here? Is it because the QQQ had a little bit of volatile day yesterday? The fact that the QQQ spent yesterday went back and forth in price range would indicate to me that it wants to rebound back up. Just trying to broaden my technical analysis intuition here 🙂

Thanks!

Derek Truong

Hi Sam,

What chart are you looking at with this statement?

This would be the first two legged segmented pull-back in this rally since April. The first pull-back was two-legged as well

I’m not seeing two legs on the pullback after the 1st segment of the rally? I only see a single small pullback. Could you show me on the chart what you’re looking at?

Thanks!

Andrew Pham

Hey Sam, I have a question about puts in general. When is it usually the best time to purchase them as an insurance against catastrophic losses in the more “stable” portfolios (like Tyrell)? If I don’t have any put positions at the moment, when would be the best time to start thinking about adding the measure?

First Name

gap up rollover

First Name

We need to discuss revision to the strategy of these short term trades. It’s pretty widely accepted that within 30 calendar days of exp you should exit if the opportunity presents itself.

We have missed the mark more than once now with these trades where we had exits 30 days ago that would’ve been profitable. Of course there will always be the case, where the trade pays big near exp, however, we have seen many trades over the past few months where we have good exits and have completely missed the mark. Not great exits, but making money is better than losing money and gives you another shot to swing again down the road.

That said we;ve also missed the mark exiting early like we did in the spring a few times, but I think in general we should have a discussion about the exit plan. Clearly exiting the NVDA puts, the nearest spread on the sharp pullback in August would’ve been wise and offered the opportunity to re enter. In the past we’ve missed opportunity to re enter, but that was also done prematurely, IMO. I think we need to consider DTE and consider exiting at breakeven (if suffered a drawdown), or slight profit, then re assess and re enter if the opportunity presents.

Todd

The dip is coming, and even a broke clock is right twice a day.

First Name

Not suggesting following blindly, just suggesting we discuss the strategy

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